Clint Hoover joins me on episode 109.
Clint is originally from Minneapolis and has spent a life immersed in music and the harmonica. He’s reached great heights on both the chromatic and the diatonic. Early on he also studied guitar and saxophone and attended a jazz course in New York City where he also took chromatic lessons from Robert Bonfiglio.
His eclectic mix of interests has led him to recording albums in genres from pre-war blues to modern jazz, to rock, pop and World Music. His first recorded album was with a mainstream band called The Fontanas back in 1989, with the album release being delayed for thirty four years, coming out in 2023. In-between he’s released jazz albums, jug band music, rock and more, really showcasing his extraordinary talents on both the diatonic and chromatic harmonicas.
Links:
Website:
https://clinthoover.com/
Clint article: ‘My Harmonica Journey’:
https://clinthoover.com/a-harmonica-journey/
Richard Hunter interview with Clint:
https://www.hunterharp.com/hoover1/
The Fontanas album:
https://blackberrywayrecords.com/album/2566074/the-fontanas
Videos:
Clint’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE7io6uwgGzsOBpanupYdBg
Les Thompson performing live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlLGjO8MzpU
Get Up Off That Jazzophone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23VJPJeakJI
Sister Sadie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQG1sHJedgY
Podcast website:
https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com
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Spotify Playlist:
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01:33 - Originally from Minneapolis, now living in Pittsburg, but most of his music career spent around the twin cities of St Paul and Minneapolis
02:08 - First turned onto the harmonica when saw James Cotton playing with The Muddy Waters band
03:17 - Started playing diatonic harmonica a few years later at age 17, and blues harmonica was Clint’s entry point
04:11 - First learnt by playing by ear, along to records and had the Tony Glover harmonica book
04:48 - Started playing in a duo in school
05:02 - Picked up the chromatic from the advice of a bassist playing some piano to Clint
06:04 - Was still mainly blues-based originals when Clint started playing the chromatic
06:51 - In 1987 attended the Parsons Jazz and Contemporary Music Program in New York
07:12 - Decided to become a musician after completing Art college, learning music theory and played a lot of guitar to get work in bands
07:40 - Then transferred knowledge of guitar to the chromatic harmonica and started playing some jazz
08:10 - Started teaching harmonica at a music school in Minneapolis, where he met a lot of musicians
08:42 - Had lessons with Robert Bonfiglio while in New York
09:09 - Tried to get some lessons with Toots Thielemans but that didn’t work out
09:25 - Tried to apply Bonfiglio’s corner switching technique to Bebop, but couldn’t apply this too well to improvisation
10:09 - Is corner switching more suited to music reading?
10:33 - Mainly uses puckering when playing jazz on the chromatic and tongue blocking when playing diatonic
10:58 - Clint took private lessons with Robert Bonfiglio as part of the jazz course as that didn’t have any harmonica tutors
11:44 - Only studied on the jazz course in New York for one year due to the finances
12:14 - Still plays guitar for composition and applying musical knowledge from that to the harmonica
13:02 - The value of playing a chordal instrument when playing a mainly single note instrument like the harmonica
13:28 - Also a great diatonic player where he was inspired to learn overblows after seeing Howard Levy perform
16:01 - Clint chooses to play chromatic on most of jazz playing as likes the dedicated reed for each note
17:13 - Uses diatonic in the jazz genre more for jazz blues and jazz soul
17:24 - Still practises overblows on the diatonic and remains fascinated in transferring chromatic harmonica knowledge to the diatonic
18:13 - Clint believes the chromatic can be as expressive as the chromatic, with great bending capability on the chromatic too
19:09 - Spent a lot of time on developing expressiveness on chromatic, making it sound close to a diatonic
19:26 - Hasn’t removed the wind savers to make the chromatic more bendable and plays a standard tuned chromatic in the key of C only, except for some recording purposes
20:52 - Plays a range of different styles of music, from pre-war to modern jazz, to rock and pop
21:52 - Some of Clint’s favourite harmonica players, starting with Les Thompson: the unheralded West coast version of Toots
22:07 - Irish player Eddie Clarke and Clint played some Irish music at one point
23:16 - Clint is a fan of pre-war harmonica and mentions Blues Birdhead, supposedly the first person to have recorded an overblow and played like a jazz trumpeter
25:12 - Rhythm Willie is another favourite pre-war harmonica player of Clint’s
25:40 - Clint played in a jug band (The Sugar Kings) where he recorded some pre-war style harmonica and got to a good level playing that
26:50 - Horn players are a major source of inspiration for Clint and the Charlie Parker Omnibook
28:44 - First album released in 1997: Dream of the Serpent Dog
29:19 - Recorded an album before the one in 1997, with rock band The Fontanas in 1989 with that album eventually released in 2023
30:31 - The Fontanas album has Clint’s hard driving chromatic harmonica featured strongly on the songs
30:56 - The playing on the Fontanas album is pre-Blues Traveller, which has a similar sound
31:50 - Plays hooks on the chromatic on the Fontanas songs
32:11 - Overlaid saxophone and harp on the Fontanas songs
32:19 - Why the Fontanas album has been released 34 years later
33:38 - Dream of the Serpent Dog album, mainly acoustic jazz with some World Music too
34:24 - Snake Oil song is in ‘second flat’ (as per the Howard Levy system)
34:57 - Album with Bill Geezy & The Promise Breakers is more pop based
35:41 - Clint is better known as a chromatic player but he has released a lot of recordings on diatonic
36:26 - Album with Papa John Kolstad (who Mike Turk also recorded with)
37:36 - Released album as a band leader: The Clint Hoover Trio
38:55 - Two jazz albums with a band called Eastside, in 2009 and 2014
40:13 - In 2021 played rock harmonica with a band called Jimmy Mac & The Attack after moving to Pittsburgh
40:52 - Got into playing amplified harp and using effects in this band
41:14 - This album recorded ‘live’ in the studio, bringing a freshness to the sound which Clint likes
41:36 - About using the chromatic in a rock setting, which is not heard very often, and plays organ lines on the diatonic
42:50 - Likes to use a Hohner CX12 for amplified chromatic playing
43:10 - Done quite a lot of session work, including a TV news theme
43:40 - Has recorded some material for harmonica instruction books but hasn’t released his own
44:00 - Done a lot of teaching of harmonica and has own methodology
44:25 - Ten minute question
45:13 - Practise regime includes lots of scale and arpeggio work, as well as transposing and practising repertoire
46:10 - Still practises a lot, now at the age of 68 he thinks it keeps him young and what Dizzy Gillespie said about practising
47:21 - Diatonic of choice is the Hohner Golden Melody, and has lots of customised ones in compromised tuning so chords sound good
47:55 - Customisers he uses include Joe Spiers, Joel Andersson and Tom Halchak
48:42 - Advantages of custom harps but still has to set offset to own liking due to playing style
49:24 - Chromatics are high maintenance and a lot of that work has to be done by Clint himself
49:41 - Has lots of different types of chromatic
49:50 - Uses the older model of the Golden Melody and also likes the Hohner Rocket
50:13 - Favourite chromatic is the Hohner 64X and has customised versions from Will’s Make
50:36 - Uses CX12 for amplified work on chromatic
50:41 - Uses a 12 hole more these days, previously using only 16 hole chromatics
51:01 - When playing with The Fontanas used a Hohner CBH 16 hole chromatic with the slots on them making them good to use amplified
51:52 - Has an Eastop brass comb chromatic and Suzuki Fabulous
52:16 - Uses Richter tuned diatonics and standard tuned chromatics
53:01 - Amplification: did play acoustically for a long time and the dynamic range of the diatonic
54:28 - Returned to amplified playing in recent times once moved to Pittsburgh
54:38 - Main amps of choice is a Fender Princeton Blackface Reverb
54:55 - Has a custom Megatone amp
55:21 - For jazz plays through a powered PA speaker through a cupped mic for a clean sound
55:47 - Mics include an Audit Fireball and a Sennheiser 441, a Bulletini, but doesn’t use a lot of bullet mics
57:24 - Future plans includes getting out playing around Pittsburgh, some teaching and is working on a follow-up album to Dream of the Serpent Dog
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