Jim Zeller joins me on episode 121.
Jim is from Montreal, Canada, and first starting playing harmonica at age twelve after stealing one from a school friend. He ran away from home at age fifteen and learnt harmonica as he hitch-hiked around North America.
Jim has a very distinctive energetic style of playing on both the diatonic and chromatic harmonica. He developed this style by emulating guitar riffs and the percussive elements of Indian music.
He has played with and supported some famous blues names, appeared in a Bob Dylan movie and has had a stellar career in the Canadian blues scene, being nominated for Maple Blues awards and appearing at the Montreal Jazz Festival over thirty times.
Links:
Jim's website:
https://jimzeller.wixsite.com/jimzeller
Yonberg harmonicas:
https://www.yonberg-harmonica.com/en
Videos:
Fright Train:
https://youtu.be/ITftta0SXRY?si=pjJyN2ChsFPCCsds
The Man With The Harmonica:
https://youtu.be/fcHhRSIMSzU?si=MJJuVgbA3Dsc6Ode
Playing The Godfather live at the Montreal Jazz Festival:
https://youtu.be/ajypG_32ij8
Wild Life:
https://youtu.be/7Dr2J2CNbak?si=e38mCvAppGPqsItp
Podcast website:
https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com
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Spotify Playlist:
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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5QC6RF2VTfs4iPuasJBqwT?si=M-j3IkiISeefhR7ybm9qIQ
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01:31 - Jim is based in Montreal, Canada
01:36 - Speaks English and French, but plays the harmonica in French
01:49 - Started playing harmonica age 12, after ‘stealing’ a harmonica from a friend
03:57 - Ran away from home age 15 after problems with father, and learnt music and the harmonica during this year and a half
04:24 - Lots of travelling hitch-hiking, which was common in the early 1970s
04:44 - Joined up with a hippy gang who had a circus, there was a blues musician there who taught Jim some stuff
05:50 - Hitch-hiked to Alaska and was sitting with Indians on the Yukon river when he heard that Jimi Hendrix had died
07:30 - Jim has started writing a book about his life and adventures
08:02 - Jim wanted to be the ‘Jimi Hendrix of the harmonica’ and started using effects pedals
08:50 - First effects used was an Echoplex pedal
09:14 - Worked on harmonica to make it sound like a guitar, to fit in with the bands played with
10:21 - Early influences were the greats such as Sonny Boy Williamson II, Little Walter and James Cotton
10:53 - Did tours with Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon
10:58 - Carey Bell was a mentor to Jim
11:28 - Using effects has contributed to Jim’s aim of becoming the ‘Jimi Hendrix of the harmonica’
12:32 - Other influences guitar led bands including Led Zeppelin and Cream
12:49 - Had always sung but became lead singer and lead the band
14:41 - Has a unique approach to the harmonica with varied genres with generally an undercurrent of rock blues
15:13 - Started playing with Alan Gerber from the late 1970s
16:07 - Jim moved to New York in 1977 at the beginning of the punk scene
16:16 - Played sessions as a sideman, including with Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush
16:57 - Would play more or less the same harmonica parts now as he did when he recorded them in the late 1970s
17:31 - Wanted to play in a unique way, and not the typical blues riffs, but to re-invent the instrument
18:03 - Appears in the Bob Dylan movie, Reynaldo and Clara
20:13 - Played songs with Joni Mitchell
21:19 - First album released under name was Cards on the Table, in 1979
25:10 - Cards On The Table was recorded with Alan Gerber but was released under Jim’s name
27:11 - Fire To The Wire album from 1995 featured the great chromatic instrumental, The Godfather theme
27:19 - Has appeared at the Montreal Jazz festival thirty-two times
28:11 - Jim first started playing the chromatic in his teens after seeing Larry Adler on television
29:19 - Sent Larry Adler him a demo tape, and Larry replied
29:58 - Jim felt he had to learn chromatic to be a complete harmonica player
30:10 - How the chromatic differs from the diatonic
30:47 - Has worked especially hard on chromatic since the pandemic
31:03 - What Larry Adler said in his letter
31:25 - Use of the 16 hole for cello like parts
31:58 - Chromatic can play any melody you hear, which diatonic can’t quite manage
33:07 - Blues From Another Planet album from 2019 has a version of The Man With The Harmonica played on chromatic
34:09 - How to use the chromatic in a rock ’n roll band situation by using the drive from diatonic playing on chromatic
35:38 - Carey Bell’s use of the chromatic isn’t just third position
36:44 - Jim’s favourite three chromatic players are Larry Adler, Toots Thielemans and Steve Wonder
37:41 - Jim’s diatonic playing was highly influenced by the percussive style of Indian music
40:08 - The harmonica is an instrument of hyperventilation
40:19 - Teaches his students to always leave a reserve of air
41:25 - Most players neglect the top end of the harmonica, so Jim has always worked hard on that
42:05 - Jim doesn’t use overblows as he plays chromatic for the ‘missing’ notes on diatonic
42:23 - Jim uses all ten holes of the diatonic
43:34 - Ten minute question
44:09 - Playing popular songs on the diatonic to appeal to a younger audience
45:45 - Harmonicas of choice: Suzuki SCX 12 and 16 hole chromatics
46:31 - Used some diatonics from a company in France called Yonberg, where you can change the harmonica reedplates very easily
47:50 - Likes Suzuki Bluesmaster diatonics
49:02 - Plays many different positions
49:25 - Embouchre
49:36 - Jim’s comping is very percussive
50:28 - Wrote a horn part to the song Bad Girl on harmonica
51:38 - Tongue blocking on diatonic gives impression of a brass section
51:49 - A saxophone combined with octaves on harmonica make it sound like three instruments
52:21 - Uses a wireless Sennheiser mic
52:43 - Pedal board contains distortion, chorus then octave pedal into a Boss copy of the Roland Space echo
54:21 - Doesn’t use amps on the road, although does use amps in the studio
54:30 - Sings into same mic as uses for harmonica
54:52 - Has used a green bullet mic previously
55:40 - Mic of choice in studio is SM57 which gives good bite on harmonica
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