The podcast that profiles great harmonica players and technicians from around the world
Oct. 12, 2024

Jim Zeller interview

Jim Zeller interview

Jim Zeller joins me on episode 121.
Jim is from Montreal, Canada, and first starting playing harmonica at age twelve after stealing one from a school friend. He ran away from home at age fifteen and learnt harmonica as he hitch-hiked around North America.
Jim has a very distinctive energetic style of playing on both the diatonic and chromatic harmonica. He developed this style by emulating guitar riffs and the percussive elements of Indian music.
He has played with and supported some famous blues names, appeared in a Bob Dylan movie and has had a stellar career in the Canadian blues scene, being nominated for Maple Blues awards and appearing at the Montreal Jazz Festival over thirty times.

Links:
Jim's website:
https://jimzeller.wixsite.com/jimzeller

Yonberg harmonicas:
https://www.yonberg-harmonica.com/en

Videos:
Fright Train:
https://youtu.be/ITftta0SXRY?si=pjJyN2ChsFPCCsds

The Man With The Harmonica:
https://youtu.be/fcHhRSIMSzU?si=MJJuVgbA3Dsc6Ode

Playing The Godfather live at the Montreal Jazz Festival:
https://youtu.be/ajypG_32ij8

Wild Life:
https://youtu.be/7Dr2J2CNbak?si=e38mCvAppGPqsItp

Podcast website:
https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com

Donations:
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Spotify Playlist:
Also check out the Spotify Playlist, which contains most of the songs discussed in the podcast:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5QC6RF2VTfs4iPuasJBqwT?si=M-j3IkiISeefhR7ybm9qIQ

Podcast sponsors:
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Chapters

01:31 - Jim is based in Montreal, Canada

01:36 - Speaks English and French, but plays the harmonica in French

01:49 - Started playing harmonica age 12, after ‘stealing’ a harmonica from a friend

03:57 - Ran away from home age 15 after problems with father, and learnt music and the harmonica during this year and a half

04:24 - Lots of travelling hitch-hiking, which was common in the early 1970s

04:44 - Joined up with a hippy gang who had a circus, there was a blues musician there who taught Jim some stuff

05:50 - Hitch-hiked to Alaska and was sitting with Indians on the Yukon river when he heard that Jimi Hendrix had died

07:30 - Jim has started writing a book about his life and adventures

08:02 - Jim wanted to be the ‘Jimi Hendrix of the harmonica’ and started using effects pedals

08:50 - First effects used was an Echoplex pedal

09:14 - Worked on harmonica to make it sound like a guitar, to fit in with the bands played with

10:21 - Early influences were the greats such as Sonny Boy Williamson II, Little Walter and James Cotton

10:53 - Did tours with Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon

10:58 - Carey Bell was a mentor to Jim

11:28 - Using effects has contributed to Jim’s aim of becoming the ‘Jimi Hendrix of the harmonica’

12:32 - Other influences guitar led bands including Led Zeppelin and Cream

12:49 - Had always sung but became lead singer and lead the band

14:41 - Has a unique approach to the harmonica with varied genres with generally an undercurrent of rock blues

15:13 - Started playing with Alan Gerber from the late 1970s

16:07 - Jim moved to New York in 1977 at the beginning of the punk scene

16:16 - Played sessions as a sideman, including with Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush

16:57 - Would play more or less the same harmonica parts now as he did when he recorded them in the late 1970s

17:31 - Wanted to play in a unique way, and not the typical blues riffs, but to re-invent the instrument

18:03 - Appears in the Bob Dylan movie, Reynaldo and Clara

20:13 - Played songs with Joni Mitchell

21:19 - First album released under name was Cards on the Table, in 1979

25:10 - Cards On The Table was recorded with Alan Gerber but was released under Jim’s name

27:11 - Fire To The Wire album from 1995 featured the great chromatic instrumental, The Godfather theme

27:19 - Has appeared at the Montreal Jazz festival thirty-two times

28:11 - Jim first started playing the chromatic in his teens after seeing Larry Adler on television

29:19 - Sent Larry Adler him a demo tape, and Larry replied

29:58 - Jim felt he had to learn chromatic to be a complete harmonica player

30:10 - How the chromatic differs from the diatonic

30:47 - Has worked especially hard on chromatic since the pandemic

31:03 - What Larry Adler said in his letter

31:25 - Use of the 16 hole for cello like parts

31:58 - Chromatic can play any melody you hear, which diatonic can’t quite manage

33:07 - Blues From Another Planet album from 2019 has a version of The Man With The Harmonica played on chromatic

34:09 - How to use the chromatic in a rock ’n roll band situation by using the drive from diatonic playing on chromatic

35:38 - Carey Bell’s use of the chromatic isn’t just third position

36:44 - Jim’s favourite three chromatic players are Larry Adler, Toots Thielemans and Steve Wonder

37:41 - Jim’s diatonic playing was highly influenced by the percussive style of Indian music

40:08 - The harmonica is an instrument of hyperventilation

40:19 - Teaches his students to always leave a reserve of air

41:25 - Most players neglect the top end of the harmonica, so Jim has always worked hard on that

42:05 - Jim doesn’t use overblows as he plays chromatic for the ‘missing’ notes on diatonic

42:23 - Jim uses all ten holes of the diatonic

43:34 - Ten minute question

44:09 - Playing popular songs on the diatonic to appeal to a younger audience

45:45 - Harmonicas of choice: Suzuki SCX 12 and 16 hole chromatics

46:31 - Used some diatonics from a company in France called Yonberg, where you can change the harmonica reedplates very easily

47:50 - Likes Suzuki Bluesmaster diatonics

49:02 - Plays many different positions

49:25 - Embouchre

49:36 - Jim’s comping is very percussive

50:28 - Wrote a horn part to the song Bad Girl on harmonica

51:38 - Tongue blocking on diatonic gives impression of a brass section

51:49 - A saxophone combined with octaves on harmonica make it sound like three instruments

52:21 - Uses a wireless Sennheiser mic

52:43 - Pedal board contains distortion, chorus then octave pedal into a Boss copy of the Roland Space echo

54:21 - Doesn’t use amps on the road, although does use amps in the studio

54:30 - Sings into same mic as uses for harmonica

54:52 - Has used a green bullet mic previously

55:40 - Mic of choice in studio is SM57 which gives good bite on harmonica