Yvonnick Prene joins me on episode 117.
Yvonnick was born in France and has been resident in New York for seventeen years after first moving to the city to study at the New School for Jazz & Contemporary Music.
He started out playing blues and jazz on the diatonic and took lessons with some of the great French players, before focusing his attention playing jazz on the chromatic.
Yvonnick is a bandleader and has released seven albums under his own name as well as numerous sessions as a sideman.
He also runs the New Harmonica School in New York and the excellent online tutorial website My Harmonica Studio, as well as numerous tutorial books.
Yvonnick is also the face of Hohner’s new Xpression chromatic harmonica.
Links:
Website:
https://www.yvonnickprene.com/
Tuition website:
https://www.myharmonicastudio.com/
Henriksen amplifiers:
https://www.henriksenamplifiers.com/
Videos:
Yvonnick’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCRked2IhFUqTf92SHisizQ
Yvonnick Prene & Manual Rocheman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O-y3YLahwY
Slim Shady song:
https://youtu.be/y6mgIJH6_EY
New York Harmonica School:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcwEprk6rJ8
Triste from Jobim’s World album:
https://youtu.be/nlztkwCXeKU
Podcast website:
https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com
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01:32 - Yvonnick is from Paris, France, and has lived in New York for seventeen years
01:56 - Was originally only supposed to stay for one year in New York as an exchange student from Sorbonne university in France
02:26 - Had long dreamed of meeting jazz heroes in New York but was a big change and culture shock
03:03 - Level of musicianship is very high in New York
03:40 - Paris was a hotbed of jazz in the 1940s/50s/60s
05:08 - When the young Yvonnick was learning jazz in Paris he met some American musicians, mainly from the Free Jazz genre
05:41 - Level of jazz musicianship is very high these days due to online resources
06:09 - Studies at Sorbonne university included two music degrees, with first degree focused on musicology
06:49 - Professor at Sorbonne university started a jazz history course and helped Yvonnick move to New York
07:25 - Didn’t study on the Chromatic harmonica during first course Sorbonne university, which was more general music studies
07:51 - Diatonic harmonica was first instrument played, followed by guitar and played blues on these for a few years, with jazz coming later
08:14 - Is an accomplished diatonic player and played jazz on the diatonic until age seventeen
08:34 - Studied with Greg Zlap, JJ Milteau and Sebastien Charlier
08:52 - Yvonnick’s early band in Paris playing jazz standards on diatonic
09:35 - Played overblows for jazz playing on diatonic
09:48 - Still plays diatonic everyday and teaches diatonic
09:57 - Reason why decided to play jazz on the chromatic instead of diatonic
10:04 - Was spending a lot of time customising diatonics to set-up to play jazz and the technical challenges of the diatonic
11:30 - Loves the evenness of the timbre of the chromatic, which makes it easier to play jazz than on a diatonic
12:05 - Diatonic harmonica has a lot of technical challenges to play jazz, although lots of young players using it very well
12:52 - Believes it’s easier to start playing jazz on the chromatic compared to the diatonic
12:59 - But if you love the sound of the diatonic then choose that, or play both diatonic and chromatic
13:33 - Passion is the important thing
14:20 - In 2012 started studying at the New School for Jazz & Contemporary Music in New York
14:39 - Yvonnick kept requesting for extensions for his stay in New York so went to Colombia university for 6 months
15:20 - Chromatic was main instrument at the New School as they were very free on the instrument that could be used
15:36 - Studied with some jazz greats at the New School including Charlie Persip and Lee Konitz
16:46 - How chromatic harmonica was received on New York jazz scene depends on the context, with jam sessions being highly competitive
17:07 - Mic in jam sessions can be an unknown quantity and harmonica needs highs turned down and a little reverb
18:21 - Was well received by some of the musicians in New York
18:51 - Is a bandleader including in the Yvonnick Prene Quartet and Padam Swing and has released seven albums under his own name
19:17 - Important as a harmonica player to lead your own projects as the instrument is not as in demand as others
20:54 - Padam Swing was a gypsy jazz band Yvonnick put together
21:31 - Wonderful World album from 2014 is with Padam Swing
21:55 - How Yvonnick started playing gypsy jazz
23:02 - Gypsy can be a good entry point to jazz as chord progressions not so complex, but rhythms are!
23:57 - Likes to explore different styles of music
24:16 - First album, Jour de Fête, was released in 2013, just after completing studies and made to help obtain US visa
25:49 - Released a Toots tribute album in 2015, Merci Toots, with guitarist Pasquale Grasso
27:01 - Breathe album released in 2016
27:20 - New York Moments album (2019) has a song dedicated to Greg Zlap, who Yvonnick learnt diatonic from when young in Paris
28:42 - Listen album from 2023 played in a quintet and featuring the chromatic alongside tenor saxophone
29:37 - Recorded in the Van Gelder studio, where lots of Blue Note albums recorded, booth blew up when Yvonnick was recording the Listen album
30:45 - Latest album is Jobim’s World (2024), based around the music of Brazilian composer Antonio Carlos Jobim and is a duo with Geoffrey Keezer on piano
32:36 - Working on touring the Jobim’s World album in 2025
33:00 - Also performs with other pianists
33:19 - Recently played some concerts in Paris including a concert recorded on radio France with pianist Manual Rocheman
34:21 - Has recorded many sessions as a sideman with other artists
34:44 - Enjoys playing with vocalists
35:30 - Has been hired to play at events, such as a perfume company
36:09 - Runs the New Harmonica School in New York
37:00 - Also has an online harmonica tutorial website called My Harmonica Studio
37:46 - Has written numerous harmonica tutorial books
38:26 - Focused on teaching for a few years, but now is concentrating more on playing
39:53 - Has played in some great venues, including the Blue Note and Birdland in New York, and a gig in Africa in the Ivory Coast
40:48 - Ten minute question
42:44 - Jazz players need to work on longer term goals, really mastering scales and inversions
43:00 - Meets so many people who don’t know the notes on the chromatic harmonica and just play by ear
44:11 - Also to leave some time to have fun in your practise and also to learn some tunes
44:32 - Advise for people who want to get into playing jazz: listen to jazz, start with simpler tunes, scales, jazz blues
46:10 - Have some knowledge, have a good sound, know the notes of chords, scales and intervals
46:35 - Jazz is played in the moment so need to react fast, have good ears, a good sense of time and rhythm
47:51 - Yvonnick is an ambassador for Hohner an a reseller for their new Xpression Chromatic, on which he has his face on the box
48:15 - Does some set-up of the Xpression before selling them
48:43 - Features of the Xpression chromatic
49:17 - Embouchre: Yvonnick started puckering but also does lots of tongue blocking for playing intervals
49:41 - Still plays plenty of diatonic harmonica and recording of an Eminem song with a singer
50:47 - Mics: has tried many, including SM58 and Audio-Technica condenser
51:56 - New favourite mic is Beyerdynamic M88
52:46 - Amps previously include the Fishman Acoustic and Roland. Now using a Henriksen amp originally designed for jazz guitar
53:57 - Bought an extension cabinet for the amp recently so other band members can hear the harmonica
54:29 - Effects: tried a lot of pedals in the pandemic, but returned most of them, and now uses just a little reverb with the M88 mic and Henriksen amp
56:08 - Always have to diversify and not go into auto pilot to be able to make it as a harmonica player
56:20 - Future plans: has started working on a new project
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