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Aug. 10, 2024

Yvonnick Prene interview

Yvonnick Prene interview

Yvonnick Prene joins me on episode 117.
Yvonnick was born in France and has been resident in New York for seventeen years after first moving to the city to study at the New School for Jazz & Contemporary Music.
He started out playing blues and jazz on the diatonic and took lessons with some of the great French players, before focusing his attention playing jazz on the chromatic.
Yvonnick is a bandleader and has released seven albums under his own name as well as numerous sessions as a sideman.
He also runs the New Harmonica School in New York and the excellent online tutorial website My Harmonica Studio, as well as numerous tutorial books.
Yvonnick is also the face of Hohner’s new Xpression chromatic harmonica.

Links:
Website:
https://www.yvonnickprene.com/

Tuition website:
https://www.myharmonicastudio.com/

Henriksen amplifiers:
https://www.henriksenamplifiers.com/

Videos:
Yvonnick’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCRked2IhFUqTf92SHisizQ

Yvonnick Prene & Manual Rocheman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O-y3YLahwY

Slim Shady song:
https://youtu.be/y6mgIJH6_EY

New York Harmonica School:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcwEprk6rJ8

Triste from Jobim’s World album:
https://youtu.be/nlztkwCXeKU

Podcast website:
https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com

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Spotify Playlist:
Also check out the Spotify Playlist, which contains most of the songs discussed in the podcast:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5QC6RF2VTfs4iPuasJBqwT?si=M-j3IkiISeefhR7ybm9qIQ

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Chapters

01:32 - Yvonnick is from Paris, France, and has lived in New York for seventeen years

01:56 - Was originally only supposed to stay for one year in New York as an exchange student from Sorbonne university in France

02:26 - Had long dreamed of meeting jazz heroes in New York but was a big change and culture shock

03:03 - Level of musicianship is very high in New York

03:40 - Paris was a hotbed of jazz in the 1940s/50s/60s

05:08 - When the young Yvonnick was learning jazz in Paris he met some American musicians, mainly from the Free Jazz genre

05:41 - Level of jazz musicianship is very high these days due to online resources

06:09 - Studies at Sorbonne university included two music degrees, with first degree focused on musicology

06:49 - Professor at Sorbonne university started a jazz history course and helped Yvonnick move to New York

07:25 - Didn’t study on the Chromatic harmonica during first course Sorbonne university, which was more general music studies

07:51 - Diatonic harmonica was first instrument played, followed by guitar and played blues on these for a few years, with jazz coming later

08:14 - Is an accomplished diatonic player and played jazz on the diatonic until age seventeen

08:34 - Studied with Greg Zlap, JJ Milteau and Sebastien Charlier

08:52 - Yvonnick’s early band in Paris playing jazz standards on diatonic

09:35 - Played overblows for jazz playing on diatonic

09:48 - Still plays diatonic everyday and teaches diatonic

09:57 - Reason why decided to play jazz on the chromatic instead of diatonic

10:04 - Was spending a lot of time customising diatonics to set-up to play jazz and the technical challenges of the diatonic

11:30 - Loves the evenness of the timbre of the chromatic, which makes it easier to play jazz than on a diatonic

12:05 - Diatonic harmonica has a lot of technical challenges to play jazz, although lots of young players using it very well

12:52 - Believes it’s easier to start playing jazz on the chromatic compared to the diatonic

12:59 - But if you love the sound of the diatonic then choose that, or play both diatonic and chromatic

13:33 - Passion is the important thing

14:20 - In 2012 started studying at the New School for Jazz & Contemporary Music in New York

14:39 - Yvonnick kept requesting for extensions for his stay in New York so went to Colombia university for 6 months

15:20 - Chromatic was main instrument at the New School as they were very free on the instrument that could be used

15:36 - Studied with some jazz greats at the New School including Charlie Persip and Lee Konitz

16:46 - How chromatic harmonica was received on New York jazz scene depends on the context, with jam sessions being highly competitive

17:07 - Mic in jam sessions can be an unknown quantity and harmonica needs highs turned down and a little reverb

18:21 - Was well received by some of the musicians in New York

18:51 - Is a bandleader including in the Yvonnick Prene Quartet and Padam Swing and has released seven albums under his own name

19:17 - Important as a harmonica player to lead your own projects as the instrument is not as in demand as others

20:54 - Padam Swing was a gypsy jazz band Yvonnick put together

21:31 - Wonderful World album from 2014 is with Padam Swing

21:55 - How Yvonnick started playing gypsy jazz

23:02 - Gypsy can be a good entry point to jazz as chord progressions not so complex, but rhythms are!

23:57 - Likes to explore different styles of music

24:16 - First album, Jour de Fête, was released in 2013, just after completing studies and made to help obtain US visa

25:49 - Released a Toots tribute album in 2015, Merci Toots, with guitarist Pasquale Grasso

27:01 - Breathe album released in 2016

27:20 - New York Moments album (2019) has a song dedicated to Greg Zlap, who Yvonnick learnt diatonic from when young in Paris

28:42 - Listen album from 2023 played in a quintet and featuring the chromatic alongside tenor saxophone

29:37 - Recorded in the Van Gelder studio, where lots of Blue Note albums recorded, booth blew up when Yvonnick was recording the Listen album

30:45 - Latest album is Jobim’s World (2024), based around the music of Brazilian composer Antonio Carlos Jobim and is a duo with Geoffrey Keezer on piano

32:36 - Working on touring the Jobim’s World album in 2025

33:00 - Also performs with other pianists

33:19 - Recently played some concerts in Paris including a concert recorded on radio France with pianist Manual Rocheman

34:21 - Has recorded many sessions as a sideman with other artists

34:44 - Enjoys playing with vocalists

35:30 - Has been hired to play at events, such as a perfume company

36:09 - Runs the New Harmonica School in New York

37:00 - Also has an online harmonica tutorial website called My Harmonica Studio

37:46 - Has written numerous harmonica tutorial books

38:26 - Focused on teaching for a few years, but now is concentrating more on playing

39:53 - Has played in some great venues, including the Blue Note and Birdland in New York, and a gig in Africa in the Ivory Coast

40:48 - Ten minute question

42:44 - Jazz players need to work on longer term goals, really mastering scales and inversions

43:00 - Meets so many people who don’t know the notes on the chromatic harmonica and just play by ear

44:11 - Also to leave some time to have fun in your practise and also to learn some tunes

44:32 - Advise for people who want to get into playing jazz: listen to jazz, start with simpler tunes, scales, jazz blues

46:10 - Have some knowledge, have a good sound, know the notes of chords, scales and intervals

46:35 - Jazz is played in the moment so need to react fast, have good ears, a good sense of time and rhythm

47:51 - Yvonnick is an ambassador for Hohner an a reseller for their new Xpression Chromatic, on which he has his face on the box

48:15 - Does some set-up of the Xpression before selling them

48:43 - Features of the Xpression chromatic

49:17 - Embouchre: Yvonnick started puckering but also does lots of tongue blocking for playing intervals

49:41 - Still plays plenty of diatonic harmonica and recording of an Eminem song with a singer

50:47 - Mics: has tried many, including SM58 and Audio-Technica condenser

51:56 - New favourite mic is Beyerdynamic M88

52:46 - Amps previously include the Fishman Acoustic and Roland. Now using a Henriksen amp originally designed for jazz guitar

53:57 - Bought an extension cabinet for the amp recently so other band members can hear the harmonica

54:29 - Effects: tried a lot of pedals in the pandemic, but returned most of them, and now uses just a little reverb with the M88 mic and Henriksen amp

56:08 - Always have to diversify and not go into auto pilot to be able to make it as a harmonica player

56:20 - Future plans: has started working on a new project